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Wednesday, June 13, 2018

Still trying to figure out a fluffy Deathwatch list

I'm still struggling over what models I want to buy. I really want to play Primaris Marines, but I also like the Veterans. I guess I'll get both, but not on the scale of splitting them into 2 Battalions. I have neither the money nor time for that, and the whole point is to have them support my Astra Militarum, not replace my Astra Militarum completely.

So how do I go about it? Well, I'll start out with a small force.

Death Reapers (Deathwatch) Kill-Company

Battalion Detachment (5 Command Points)

HQ

Watch Master with guardian spear 130 (Warlord, Lord of Hidden Knowledge Warlord Trait and the Osseus Key Relic)

Primaris Watch Captain with master-crafted auto bolt rifle, bolt pistol and power sword 98

Troops

Hellfire Kill Team
5 Intercessors with auto bolt rifles and bolt pistols (Sergeant with power sword) with Hellfire Rounds plus 1 with auxiliary grenade launcher, 1 Aggressor with flamestorm gauntlets, 4 Hellblasters with assault plasma incinerators and bolt pistols 110+39+144=293

Hellstorm Kill Team
5 Intercessors with auto bolt rifles and bolt pistols (Sergeant with power sword) with Hellfire Rounds plus 1 with auxiliary grenade launcher, 2 Aggressors with flamestorm gauntlets, 3 Inceptors with 2 plasma exterminators each 110+78+177 = 365

Veteran Kill Team
Veterans - Watch Sergeant with storm shield and xenophase blade, Black Shield with storm shield and power sword, Veteran with stalker pattern boltgun and chainsword, Veteran with infernus heavy bolter and Veteran with Deathwatch frag cannon 150

Total: 1,036

Draconian Armored Defenders

Battalion Detachment (5 Command Points)

HQ

Company Commander with bolt pistol 31 (spend 1 Command Point for Kurov's Aquila)

Tempestor Prime with plasma pistol 45

Troops

Infantry squad with plasma gun 47

Infantry squad with plasma gun 47

10 Militarum Tempestus Scions 100

Heavy Support

Leman Russ Executioner with lascannon and plasma cannon sponsons 192

Total: 462

Grand Total: 1,498 (13 Command Points -> 12 Command Points for Kurov's Aquila)

This looks like a good start, and it even includes quite a number of Kamikaze Troopers and a tank, so that's what I like. Now what happens if I expand it to a 2,000-point list?

Death Reapers (Deathwatch) Kill-Company

Battalion Detachment (5 Command Points)

HQ

Watch Master with guardian spear 130 (Warlord, Lord of Hidden Knowledge Warlord Trait and the Osseus Key Relic)

Primaris Watch Captain with master-crafted auto bolt rifle, bolt pistol and power sword 98

Troops

Hellfire Kill Team
5 Intercessors with auto bolt rifles and bolt pistols (Sergeant with power sword) with Hellfire Rounds plus 1 with auxiliary grenade launcher, 1 Aggressor with flamestorm gauntlets, 4 Hellblasters with assault plasma incinerators and bolt pistols 110+39+144=293

Hellstorm Assault Kill Team
5 Intercessors with auto bolt rifles and bolt pistols (Sergeant with power sword) with Hellfire Rounds plus 1 with auxiliary grenade launcher, 2 Aggressors with flamestorm gauntlets, 3 Inceptors with 2 plasma exterminators each 110+78+177 = 365

Veteran Strike Kill Team
Veterans - Watch Sergeant with storm shield and xenophase blade, Black Shield with storm shield and power sword, Veteran with stalker pattern boltgun and chainsword, Veteran with infernus heavy bolter and Veteran with Deathwatch frag cannon 150

Total: 1,036

Draconian Armored Defenders

Battalion Detachment (5 Command Points)

HQ

Tempestor Prime with plasma pistol 45

Tempestor Prime with command rod (spend 1 Command Point for Kurov's Aquila) 45

Troops

5 Militarum Tempestus Scions with 2 plasma guns 74

10 Militarum Tempestus Scions 100

10 Militarum Tempestus Scions with 4 hot-shot volley guns 124

Heavy Support

Leman Russ Executioner with lascannon and plasma cannon sponsons 192

Leman Russ Executioner with lascannon and plasma cannon sponsons 192

Leman Russ Executioner with lascannon and plasma cannon sponsons 192

Total: 964

Grand Total: 2,000 (13 Command Points -> 12 Command Points for Kurov's Aquila)

This looks pretty cool, I guess. 3 Leman Russ tanks. A bunch of Kamikaze Storm Troopers escorting them. It fits my Draconian Armored Defenders narrative really well!

However, there's the option of just giving up on the Primaris Marines altogether and building a purely Veteran force. It kind of sucks for me, since the whole reason of playing Deathwatch was to build a narrative for the Ultimaris Decree and the seconded Primaris Chapters to the Deathwatch. But I'll just indulge myself in building a non-Primaris list for now.

Death Reapers (Deathwatch) Kill-Company

Veteran Battalion Detachment (5 Command Points)

HQ

Watch Master with guardian spear 130 (Warlord, Lord of Hidden Knowledge Warlord Trait and the Tome of Ectoclades Relic)

Watch Captain in terminator armor with relic blade and storm bolter 130

Troops

Stormbolt Kill Team
Veterans - Watch Sergeant with storm shield and stormbolter, Black Shield with storm shield and stormbolter, 3 Veterans with stormbolters 110

Deathstorm Kill Team
Veterans - Watch Sergeant with storm shield and power sword, Black Shield with storm shield and boltgun, 3 Veterans with Deathwatch frag cannons 170

Infernus Kill Team
Veterans - Watch Sergeant with storm shield and stalker pattern boltgun, Black Shield with storm shield and stalker pattern boltgun, 3 Veterans with infernus heavy bolters 158

Total: 698

Draconian Armored Defenders

Battalion Detachment (5 Command Points)

HQ

Tempestor Prime with bolt pistol 41

Tempestor Prime with bolt pistol 41

Troops

5 Militarum Tempestus Scions with 2 plasma guns 74

5 Militarum Tempestus Scions with 2 plasma guns 74

10 Militarum Tempestus Scions 100

Elites

Militarum Tempestus Command squad with 4 plasma guns 88

Heavy Support

Leman Russ Executioner with lascannon and plasma cannon sponsons 192

Leman Russ Executioner with lascannon and plasma cannon sponsons 192

Total: 802

Grand Total: 1,500 (13 Command Points -> 12 Command Points for Kurov's Aquila)

This is actually fluffier and more fun for me, where I finally have a bunch of infantry - particularly my Kamikaze Storm Troopers and 2 Tanks! 2 Leman Russ Executioner tanks with plasma! Not bad! I actually like this list a lot as it allows me to bring more of my Leman Russ tanks and more of my Kamikaze Storm Troopers. Now what happens if I increase this list to 2,000 points?

Death Reapers (Deathwatch) Kill-Company

Veteran Battalion Detachment (5 Command Points)

HQ

Watch Master with guardian spear 130 (Warlord, Lord of Hidden Knowledge Warlord Trait and the Tome of Ectoclades Relic)

Watch Captain in terminator armor with relic blade and storm bolter 130

Troops

Stormbolt Kill Team
Veterans - Watch Sergeant with storm shield and stormbolter, Black Shield with storm shield and stormbolter, 3 Veterans with stormbolters 110

Deathstorm Kill Team
Veterans - Watch Sergeant with storm shield and power sword, Black Shield with storm shield and boltgun, 3 Veterans with Deathwatch frag cannons 170

Infernus Kill Team
Veterans - Watch Sergeant with storm shield and stalker pattern boltgun, Black Shield with storm shield and stalker pattern boltgun, 3 Veterans with infernus heavy bolters 158

Flyers

Corvus Blackstar with twin lascannon, 2 stormstrike missile launchers, hurricane bolter and auspex array 257

Total: 955

Kamikaze Storm Troopers

Battalion Detachment (5 Command Points)

HQ

Tempestor Prime with command rod 45

Tempestor Prime with bolt pistol 41

Troops

5 Militarum Tempestus Scions with 2 plasma guns 74

5 Militarum Tempestus Scions with 2 plasma guns 74

10 Militarum Tempestus Scions with 4 hot-shot volley guns 124

Elites

Militarum Tempestus command squad with 4 plasma guns 88

Total: 446

Draconian Armored Defenders

Spearhead Detachment (1 Command Point)


HQ

Lord Commissar with bolt pistol and power sword (spend 1 Command Point for Kurov's Aquila) 35

Heavy Support

Leman Russ Executioner with lascannon and plasma cannon sponsons 192

Leman Russ Executioner with lascannon and plasma cannon sponsons 192

Leman Russ Executioner with heavy bolter and plasma cannon sponsons 180

Total: 599

Grand Total: 2,000 (14 Command Points -> 13 Command Points for Kurov's Aquila)

Oh! I actually like this list a lot! And the Corvus Blackstar actually does something (like transport my dudes). The only gripe I have is that there is no Primaris Marines. But that's fine, I guess. I'll just change the fluff a little. For one thing, this is easier to build since all I need are 3 boxes of Deathwatch kill teams. And it's pretty fun and fluffy to set up an infantry squad next to Infernus Kill Team as they take up positions with their infernus heavy bolters. Plenty of lascannons to go around in this list, as well as plasma. Now that I think about it, my Imperial Guard has all the plasma so I don't really need plasma weapons on my Deathwatch. Still, it does sadden me that I won't be playing with Primaris Marines and their fancy new weapons and Fortis Kill Teams. I really like all the bolt rifles with special issue ammunition and plasma weapons from the Hellblasters and Inceptors. Of course, it's still possible to play with Primaris Marines instead if I adjust my list a little...but I have no idea how to do it.

Death Reapers (Deathwatch) Kill-Company

Primaris Battalion Detachment (5 Command Points)

HQ

Primaris Watch Captain with master-crafted stalker bolt rifle, bolt pistol and power sword 98 (Warlord, Lord of Hidden Knowledge Warlord Trait and the Tome of Ectoclades Relic)

Primaris Librarian with bolt pistol and force sword 102

Troops

Hellfire Kill Team
6 Intercessors with stalker bolt rifles and bolt pistols with Hellfire Rounds plus 1 with auxiliary grenade launcher, 2 Aggressors with flamestorm gauntlets, 2 Hellblasters with heavy plasma incinerators and bolt pistols 133+78+72=283

Hellstorm Kill Team
5 Intercessors with bolt rifles and bolt pistols with Hellfire Rounds plus 1 with auxiliary grenade launcher (Sergeant with power sword), 5 Aggressors with auto boltstorm gauntlets and fragstorm grenade launcher 125+185=310

Hellfury Kill Team
5 Intercessors with bolt rifles and bolt pistols with Hellfire/Vengeance Rounds plus 1 with auxiliary grenade launcher, 2 Aggressors with flamestorm gauntlets, 3 Hellblasters with plasma incinerator and bolt pistols 101+78+102=281

Total: 1,074

Kamikaze Storm Troopers

Battalion Detachment (5 Command Points)

HQ

Tempestor Prime with command rod (spend 1 Command Point for Kurov's Aquila) 45

Tempestor Prime with bolt pistol 41

Troops

5 Militarum Tempestus Scions with 2 hot-shot volley guns 62

5 Militarum Tempestus Scions with 2 hot-shot volley guns 62

10 Militarum Tempestus Scions 100

Dedicated Transport

Taurox Prime with Taurox gatling cannon, 2 hot-shot volley guns and storm bolter 116

Total: 426

Grand Total: 1,500 (13 Command Points -> 12 Command Points for Kurov's Aquila)

Just barely managed to squeeze my Militarum Tempestus Scions and a Taurox Prime in there. It sucks that I can't squeeze in any Leman Russ tanks and I have more Space Marines than Guardsmen. Not ideal, but I guess this is how it is. That's the price I pay for using Storm Troopers. Now, if I increase this to a 2,000-point list, I wonder what will I get?

Death Reapers (Deathwatch) Kill-Company

Primaris Battalion Detachment (5 Command Points)

HQ

Primaris Watch Captain with master-crafted stalker bolt rifle, bolt pistol and power sword 98 (Warlord, Lord of Hidden Knowledge Warlord Trait and the Tome of Ectoclades Relic)

Primaris Librarian with bolt pistol and force sword 102

Troops

Hellfire Kill Team
6 Intercessors with stalker bolt rifles and bolt pistols with Hellfire Rounds plus 1 with auxiliary grenade launcher, 2 Aggressors with flamestorm gauntlets, 2 Hellblasters with heavy plasma incinerators and bolt pistols 133+78+72=283

Hellstorm Kill Team
5 Intercessors with bolt rifles and bolt pistols with Hellfire Rounds plus 1 with auxiliary grenade launcher (Sergeant with power sword), 5 Aggressors with auto boltstorm gauntlets and fragstorm grenade launcher 125+185=310

Hellfury Kill Team
5 Intercessors with bolt rifles and bolt pistols with Hellfire/Vengeance Rounds, 2 Aggressors with flamestorm gauntlets, 3 Hellblasters with plasma incinerator and bolt pistols 100+78+102=280

Total: 1,073

Kamikaze Storm Troopers

Battalion Detachment (5 Command Points)

HQ

Tempestor Prime with command rod 45

Tempestor Prime with plasma pistol 45

Troops

5 Militarum Tempestus Scions with 2 plasma guns 74

5 Militarum Tempestus Scions with 2 plasma guns 74

5 Militarum Tempestus Scions with 2 plasma guns 74

Total: 312

Draconian Armored Defenders

Spearhead Detachment (1 Command Point)

HQ

Lord Commissar with plasma pistol and power sword (spend 1 Command Point for Kurov's Aquila) 39

Heavy Support

Leman Russ Executioner with lascannon and plasma cannon sponsons 192

Leman Russ Executioner with lascannon and plasma cannon sponsons 192

Leman Russ Executioner with lascannon and plasma cannon sponsons 192

Total: 615

Grand Total: 2,000 (14 Command Points -> 13 Command Points for Kurov's Aquila)

Hmm, this isn't so bad. It's a list that's teeming with plasma, plasma and more plasma. All my Kill-teams have plasma either in the form of Hellblasters or Inceptors. Well, Stalker only has 1 Hellblaster, but that's fine. My Militarum Tempestus Scions all have plasma guns, even the Tempestor Prime without a command rod is packing a plasma gun. The Kamikaze Storm Troopers stay true to their fluff of being a plasma-heavy regiment. Then you have the Lord Commissar with a plasma pistol leading 3 Leman Russ Executioner tanks - all laden with plasma cannons in addition to their Executioner plasma cannons - in a Spearhead Detachment. This also gives me an extra Command Point and my Leman Russ tanks get Objective Secured. This is just awesome. I'm not sure what I'm going to do with my Watch Master, but I guess I'll just do something with him...for now. We'll see.

Anyway, this is what I have for now, and I'll see you guys next time! What do you think? Should I go for a mixed force? A Primaris force? A Veteran force? Let me know. I'll probably write my fluff accordingly. Right now I'm leaning toward an all-Primaris force, but that means selling my Watch Master, who's really not needed, to be honest. But I'm also tempted to field a Veteran team of specialists, like a team with infernus bolters, a team with Deathwatch frag cannons and so on. I could eventually turn it into a full Deathwatch army, which will look like this:

Death Reapers (Deathwatch) Kill-Company

Veteran Battalion Detachment (5 Command Points)

HQ

Watch Master with guardian spear 130 (Warlord, Lord of Hidden Knowledge Warlord Trait and the Tome of Ectoclades Relic)

Watch Captain in terminator armor with relic blade and storm bolter 130

Troops

Stormbolt Kill Team
Veterans - Watch Sergeant with storm shield and stormbolter, Black Shield with storm shield and stormbolter, 3 Veterans with stormbolters 110

Deathstorm Kill Team
Veterans - Watch Sergeant with storm shield and power sword, Black Shield with storm shield and boltgun, 3 Veterans with Deathwatch frag cannons 170

Thunderbolt Kill Team
Veterans - Watch Sergeant with storm shield and stalker pattern boltgun, Black Shield with storm shield and stalker pattern boltgun, 3 Veterans with heavy bolters 128

Flyers

Corvus Blackstar with twin lascannon, 2 stormstrike missile launchers, hurricane bolter and auspex array 257

Total: 925

Primaris Battalion Detachment (5 Command Points)

HQ

Primaris Watch Captain with master-crafted stalker bolt rifle, bolt pistol and power sword 98 (Warlord, Lord of Hidden Knowledge Warlord Trait and the Tome of Ectoclades Relic)

Primaris Librarian with bolt pistol and force sword 102

Troops

Hellfire Kill Team
6 Intercessors with stalker bolt rifles and bolt pistols with Hellfire Rounds plus 1 with auxiliary grenade launcher, 2 Aggressors with flamestorm gauntlets, 2 Hellblasters with heavy plasma incinerators and bolt pistols 133+78+72=283

Hellstorm Kill Team
5 Intercessors with bolt rifles and bolt pistols with Hellfire Rounds plus 1 with auxiliary grenade launcher (Sergeant with power sword), 5 Aggressors with auto boltstorm gauntlets and fragstorm grenade launcher 125+185=310

Hellfury Kill Team
5 Intercessors with bolt rifles and bolt pistols with Hellfire/Vengeance Rounds plus 1 with auxiliary grenade launcher, 2 Aggressors with flamestorm gauntlets, 3 Hellblasters with plasma incinerator and bolt pistols 101+78+102=281

Total: 1,074

Grand Total: 1,999 points (13 Command Points)

Hmm, this isn't so bad. It's going to cost me a lot to assemble a full Deathwatch army, but I'll do it eventually. So maybe I'll hang on to my Watch Master for now. This will fit into my fluff and allow me to do that whole Veterans versus Primaris split that plagues the Imperium and Chapters for now. I think I'll focus on the Primaris side for now, and then build the Veterans later. Or I could build the Veterans first (since I already have the Watch Master) and build the Primaris later. It makes sense, too, given how the Veterans came first, and they got bolstered by the Primaris Marines later, after the Cicatrix Maledictum. Anyway, we'll see. For the Emperor!

To be honest, I might just sell the Watch Master and build a pure Primaris Deathwatch force. Anyone wants the Watch Master? My favorite list is the all-plasma list. Plasma Primaris, plasma Kamikaze Storm Troopers and plasma Draconians (Leman Russ Executioner tanks!). I'll most likely just go with that, so if anyone wants the Watch Master, please let me know.

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