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Tuesday, October 7, 2025

The Forges of Saturn

I have in my hands the Journal Tactica: The Forges of Saturn. Unlike most people, who will probably focus on the rules, my interest lies primarily in the lore. I'll run through the rules briefly, but honestly, there's not much to say. You can take a Saturnine Centurion for 150 points, and he comes stock with a teleporter, plasma bombard and a single disruption fist. He cannot double up on fists, nor can he take an axe or hammer. Instead, you're free to double up on plasma bombards or twin heavy disintegrators, or mix and match ranged weapons. Or take one fist with either. Up to you.



The lore is because Saturnine Centurions are drawn chiefly from support companies or armistos consularis, coveted for their marksmanship and aptitude with advanced weapon systems. So you want them staying back and firing from a distance with that pinpoint accuracy.

Saturnine Terminator command squad starts with 2 (I think I can actually assemble one!), with the option to go all melee with their WS5. In other words, double disruption fists for twice the fun, or a fist with a ranged weapon, or you can take a fist and a war axe/concussion hammer. No axe/hammer with ranged weapon, though. Boo. Oh, they can take a plasma blaster on one of their fists, which is nice. No doubling up on particle shredders or plasma blasters, rules as written, though...is that intentional? Anyway, these guys are your bodyguards who can wield the monstrous melee weaponry of Saturnine plate with a blademaster's skill.

Then you have the daemon-possessed Saturnine Terminators, named the Phraetus Anointed Conclave. No, you still have the legionary clad in Saturnine armor plate, but they just replace advanced components of their armor with containment systems to house a bound daemon. Stats wise, this does nothing, aside from giving them WS5 and the options to take the same melee options as the Saturnine command squad (see above). Only exception is that they don't get access to plasma blasters.

Why take them, then? Well, they have Warpfire Mantle, which is a cool "daemonic" ability that allows the wearer to retaliate against shooting enemies - but you must first pass at least one armor or invulnerable save - by forcing them to make a Toughness check. Fail it, and you take D3 automatic wounds with Damage 1 and AP2. No saves allowed. Mortal wounds, basically. Cool?

My Thousand Sons get a new Osiraean Prosperine Arcana, which costs 10 points and gives us Psychometry and Machine Empathy. Only for Saturnine units and Walkers, with Psychometry, we can reduce our Overload by -1, even to 0 if it's just Overload (1)! Nice. Machine Empathy heals a single wound, but obviously can't bring dead models back to life. Neat.

Anyway, lore time!


We begin with the Phoebian Accord, which is an agreement between the Emperor and the secretive Tech-Enclaves of Phoebe to keep them independent from Mars and placing them under His direct protection. In exchange, the Phoebian Tech-Enclaves pay a tithe directly to the Imperial Household, delivering and maintaining the functionality of armaments and armor specified by the Emperor. Specifically...you guess it, the Saturnine armor,

Issued to the Space Marine Legions shortly after Terra's Unification Wars ended, Saturnine armor design was derived from the Dark Age of Technology, for protective suits intended for working inside plasma reactors. Unlike Martian tech-canon, the Tech-Enclaves were the only ones able to create new technological marvels based on such ancient data, and they set about crafting Saturnine Terminator armor.

Characterized by immense domed pauldrons that house shield generators, Saturnine Terminator armor is nearly impervious to shell and shot, innately resistant to energy weapons because of exotic rare materials, and has hermetic sealing that shields its wearer from radiation. It also boasts a highly efficient yet compact reactor that generates surplus energy that can be stored to power sophisticated weapons supplied by the Phoebians as party of the Saturnine panoply. So that's where all those disintegrator weapons came from...

Wait, nope. Instead, the Phoebian arsenal, which was helped by the Emperor, consists of plasma bombardment weapons, particle shredders and power-wreathed melee weapons of gigantic proportion. No mention of disintegrator weapons? Huh?

Anyway, Saturnine Terminator armor placed far greater cognitive demand on the wearer, owing to the intricate neural uplink that connected to the black carapace, so Space Marines required some degree of cybertheurgic resonance like latent/suppressed psychic potential to unlock its full potential. Saturnine Terminator armor had nothing in common with standard equipment supplied to the Legions, so Martian Tech-Priests can't maintain and repair them. Instead, these duties fall to Phoebian attaches of each Legion force.

The poor Phoebian Tech-Enclaves were also obligated to completely disclose all their future technological discoveries to the Emperor.

To sum it all up, basically, Saturnine Terminator armor is awesome, and I'm not going to repeat how the Journal Tactica pretty much brags about how valuable an asset it is, resilient to heavy firepower and...uh, you can just buy the book if you're interested in what kind of xenos weaponry fails against it, or how commanders make use of Saturnine-clad warriors. I'm sure you can guess.


The limited numbers of Phoebian Tech-Wrights - the only ones capable of repairing and refitting Saturnine Terminator armor - meant the Legions were increasingly unable to maintain their growing stocks of damaged or inoperable armor as the Great Crusade wore on. Yikes. The attrition sees the reduction of once vast numbers of Saturnine armors to very few. For example, unlike Horus Lupercal who was able to oversee the deployment of a considerable number of operable Saturnine Terminator armor, by the time Corvus Corax was found, the Raven Guard had few, if any, remaining operable Saturnine Terminator armors. Oh, well.

By the time of the Horus Heresy, the usage of Saturnine Terminator armor and the role of their Phoebian attendants within Legion battle forces have declined, overshadowed by easier to produce and maintain Cataphractii and Tartaros Terminator armor. Fortunately for our beloved heavy shoulder pauldron armors, Vulkan, Primarch of the Salamanders, has a personal interest in restoring, constructing and maintaining them without relying on the Phoebian Forges.

Needless to say, he succeeded.

With the assistance of the Pyre Wardens, a unique sub-sect of the Salamanders' Legion Forge tasked with the ongoing trial and development of experimental wargear, he produces prototypes. The Pyre Wardens are also outfitted with the prototypes, and Vulkan commanded them to flee during the Dropsite Massacre - the Hearthfire crew is mentioned here, a nod to Gav Thorpe's Deeds Endure, the short story with the illustration that led to Saturnine Terminator armor being popularized in the fandom.

Before Horus revealed his betrayal during his voyage to the Isstvan system, Vulkan announced to everyone his Legion's success. Through subtle alterations and substitutions to its construction, the Salamanders have rendered Saturnine Terminator armor into a form that can be repaired and fabricated anew by the Martian Mechanicum and their Forge Worlds, and Legion Techmarines. The Legions are now able to retrofit their archived stocks of Saturnine plate for battle, supplement them with freshly fashioned armors, and even deploy a revived form of the towering Saturnine Dreadnought, a prototype of the early Great Crusade that was never mass produced. Vulkan generously distributed the schema, bestowing it to every Legion except the Thousand Sons (ouch!).

We have a cool list of what each and every Legion did with their Saturnine armor.

Dark Angels apparently have an unsurpassed cache of original Phoebian issued Saturnine plate, thanks to them being the 1st Legion and having access to all sorts of relics, and even during the Horus Heresy, they are still capable of fielding Saturnine armor. Most of which are wielded by the Dreadwing's Naufragia Terminators during the Thramas Crusade against the Night Lords.

The White Scars support the Librarius project, and alongside the Thousand Sons, help with the early prototyping of Vulkan's Saturnine endeavor, and this gives them access to a reasonable stock of Saturnine Terminator armor during the early years of the Horus Heresy. However, the Chondax Engagement and warpstorms delay their usage until after the Second Battle of Prospero.


The Space Wolves are reluctant to use Saturnine armor because the technology is associated with psychic practice, albeit suppressed. However, after the Thousand Sons mauled them at Prospero, they have no choice but to grab every advantage they can, including Saturnine Terminators and Dreadnoughts. These are accompanied by Speakers of the Dead and shadowed by the term "Draugr," which implies the poor Space Wolves wearing those armors do not have their minds shielded from warp horrors of the Great Crusade.

The Imperial Fists store most of their Saturnine armors in the Temple of Oaths on the Phalanx and almost all are seconded to the Retribution Fleet by Rogal Dorn, who wants to reexamine their combat capabilities when a full fabrication batch of Vulkan's renewed schema was ordered from the Legion's Forge to reinforce the defenses of the Sol System.

Blood Angel garrisons upon Baal and Canopus, unable to contact the bulk of their Legion because of the Signus tragedy, initiate a trial of new Saturnine wargear, the Saturnine "Colossi" of Baal enacting a stalwart defense of their home world during the Horus Heresy. Sanguinius and the majority of his Legion end up in Ultramar during the whole Imperium Secundus debacle, and they are outfitted with fresh Saturnine armors from the forges of Roboute Guilliman's realm. However, the survivors of Signus, upon interfacing with Saturnine plate, reawaken the darkness of that baleful conflict.

The Iron Hands viewed Saturnine plate as an erratic relic rendered obsolete by the myriad patterns of Dreadnought and automata in their arsenal. But apparently, they have been conducting research and experiments of their own?

Among the Ultramarines, the veterans of the Evocatii Chapters have the most experience wielding Saturnine plate, and they wore freshly forged Saturnine armor enabled by Vulkan's schema to fight the Shadow Crusade descending upon Ultramar. Roboute Guilliman also orders the surviving Phoebian-issued Saturnine armor refitted and used for the anticipated Ghaslakh Crusade, though they would instead be deployed in revenge for the Calth atrocity.

Obviously, the Salamanders - the poster boys for Horus Heresy 3rd edition - possess the most new pattern Saturnine wargear among the Legions at the start of the conflict, most dispatched with Vulkan to Isstvan V. Unfortunately, the entire complement would be lost during the Dropsite Massacre. Fortunately, the Pyre Warden artificer  cohorts retain early prototypes and the Legion's Forge on Prometheus have already begun fabricating successive batches of Saturnine wargear, first employed by the Unscarred garrison in Nocturne's defense before being used to spearhead the Scouring of the Pale Stars.


Unsurprisingly, the Raven Guard eschewed Saturnine plate because they favor mobility and subtlety over lumbering power, with the exception of the Deliverers. They have amassed a significant complement of Saturnine Terminators by the time Corvus Corax is discovered, but much was lost at Gate Forty-Two or dispatched in nomad predation fleets into the outer darkness. Fortunately, those that remained see their suits restored in the aftermath of the Dropsite Massacre, and the Deliverers also take pride in liberating caches of newly produced Saturnine plate from their Traitor foes.

Emperor's Children revere Saturnine plate, relegating their dwindling stock to a predominantly ceremonial role. With Vulkan's gift, the apothecaries modify their Saturnine plates to increasingly debased extremes to further the Legionary-armor interface when fielding them.

Perturabo, bitter as always, is initially reluctant to field Vulkan's Saturnine armors because he is jealous at his brother's success. And also, because the bastard believes it is a waste to arm "line warriors" with such valuable assets. However, having prized Saturnine plate's capabilities, he tasks his sons with devising new forms while fabricating a host of new Saturnine armors that he modifies into brutal new forms.

Fractured, the Night Lords have various responses, with several warlords requesting the Legion's Forge fabricate the new armor, others only wanting to steal Terminator and Dreadnought armors from other Legions as trophies, while a few spurn them entirely. One Night Lords commander enlists the Dark Mechanicum Forge World of Ulan Huda to fabricate a company's worth of fresh Saturnine plate.

The World Eaters originally avoided Saturnine plate because of deleterious interactions between its unique interface systems and the Butcher's Nails' cranial implants, and so they had no intention of fabricating Vulkan's revised schema. But a twisted cult emerged, its members exulting in the resilience demonstrated by those who don Saturnine plate despite it amplifying the Nails' effect. These morons...ahem, dudes are called Indurate, often taking pride in claiming their armors from slain foes, though fresh-wrought Saturnine plate is assigned to specialist Inductii cadres who have yet to succumb to the Nails' bite.

The Death Guard highly value their dwindling Phoebian-issue Saturnine plate during the Great Crusade, and they happily fabricate Vulkan's renewed pattern...only for most of it to go to Calas Typhon's company. Typhon is canny enough to conceal the armor's association with psyarkana from Mortarion so he can facilitate their wider distribution across the Legion without the filthy hypocrite throwing a fit.

Unfortunately for us Thousand Sons, when Vulkan circulates his reworked Saturnine schema, Prospero had already been razed and our forge-holdings stricken from the directory by which fabrication imprints are allocated to the Legions. Fortunately, the Thousand Sons had participated in the earliest development stages of Vulkan's project, and Legion elements shielded from the Burning of Prospero will later deliver an array of prototype Saturnine wargear to our scattered brothers, having mastered new psychic disciplines attuned to Saturnine use.


The Sons of Horus do not have Saturnine wargear at Isstvan because they do not have access to early reproductions of the design. Nevertheless, Horus Lupercal appropriates resources to furnish his Legion ensure various Traitor Mechanicum elements and an expanded Legion Forge are able to provide his Legion with several companies' worth of Saturnine suits by the early stages of the Horus Heresy. The majority is mustered under Justaerin captain Falkus Kibre.

At first, the Word Bearers don't really care much about Vulkan's renewed Saturnine designs because they prefer daemonology, warp-craft and more profane methods of augmenting their warriors. This changes when the Phraetus and their corrupted Saturnine panoply emerge, and they become more widespread.

Apparently, the Alpha Legion might have been fielding Saturnine armor long before the other Legions because...they're the Alpha Legion. No, I don't get it either...

The Dawn of the Age of Darkness

By this point, I'm exhausted, so I'll just summarize everything...

Vulkan restores Saturnine armor, being the genius he is, and distributes the schema to everyone. Then he's sent along with the Retribution Fleet to take the head of Horus Lupercal when the latter reveals his betrayal at Isstvan III. Vulkan is hoping that only his sons are replete with the might of Saturnine Terminator plate and Saturnine Dreadnought chassis, and that the Traitors don't have time to mass produce them...yet. He plans to deploy them into the Urgall Depression.

The Saturnine Provision is a contingency he formulates because he is skeptical about Ferrus Manus's reckless assault on Isstvan V, his newly forged Saturnine assets showing up in the Urgall Depression to outmatch Horus's assembled armies. Instead of deploying them initially, Vulkan holds his Saturnine assets back in orbital reserve, within teleportarium chambers aboard the Salamanders' fleet's vessels, such as the Fire Ark and Laecertii, ready to teleport.

The battle goes as you might as expect, and then the Saturnine Terminators teleport onto the battlefield after so many of their brothers have been slain in the Urgall Depression (this is making me depressed). Joined by Saturnine Dreadnoughts, who lumber from the landing site and require a longer period of preparation once planetside, they are reinforced further by the conveyor-arks of Legio Atarus and House Col'khak. Awesome. We're gonna smash the Traitors!


The Death Guard basically died.

Unfortunately, Dies Irae of Legio Mortis, shows up and the tide turns against the Loyalists. Long story short, while scores of Loyalist troops are erased - along with Traitors because Chaos don't care about friendly fire - a company of Saturnine Terminators move into close range to poke at Dies Irae in an attempt to collapse its void shields. They are countered by Eschatae, a Warhound Titan, and not even Saturnine Terminators and Dreadnoughts can stand up to a Titan. So they get obliterated. Mostly.

Raven Guard Storm Eagle, Herros, to the rescue! A bunch of Assault Marines jump on the Warhound Titan and bring Eschatae down, at the costs fo their lives and the poor gunship (which crashed). The surviving Salamanders Saturnine Terminators then focus their firepower on Dies Irae to drive its void shields to critical levels, and when pummeled by the Salamanders super-heavy tanks from a distance, the Imperator Titan is forced to retreat. Bye, Legio Mortis!

The Salamanders attempt to fall back and regroup around Vukan, but they are annihilated by atomic fire, launched from Iron Warriors. Night Lords and Alpha Legion then swept through the area in the wake of the bombardment. Damn Traitors. DAMN IT!

The Kolarne-Distal Incident

I won't lie, this is what interested me the most. Along with the new Prosperine Arcana. I mean, Thousand Sons, man. This is what I am. Anyway, I was wondering why the Thousand Sons would get into a conflict with the White Scars, their closest allies. Magnus and Jaghatai Khan have always been bros, there's no way the Thousand Sons would attack the White Scars. Right?

Right. Turns out, it was the other way around.

Despite being a genius, Vulkan still needs help in restoring the Saturnine technology, and he seeks it from the Thousand Sons because we're the preeminent experts in psy-tech. The unique interface systems designed by Phoebian technology are similar to psy-resonance devices discovered by the Imperium and understanding them is crucial to maintaining and fabricating Saturnine wargear beyond the tech-enclaves of Phoebe. Vulkan thus reaches out to the Thousand Sons, known experts in psyarkana, despite the Edict of Nikaea forbidding us from employing psychic powers. Ouch. So Vulkan has to be discrete, because he doesn't want our Legion to be scrutinized further due to our association with sorcery.

The outermost star system of the Kolarne Circle, Kolarne-Distal is located near the Maelstrom in the Ultima Segmentum, a pocket of calm in the raging realm of the warp. During the height of the Libarius project, the White Scars and Thousand Sons establish a joint research outpost at the system's border to analyze the Maelstrom's currents and serve as a repository and locus of study for psyarkana, including the relics of Kolarne-Distal.

This Spiracle Station retains its mission of study in the aftermath of the Edict of Nikaea, unaffiliated with the Librarius project and now a hermitage fo sorcerer-wrights who no longer have any place in the Imperium they once served. Fortunately, Vulkan gives us a place and sends a Pyre Warden artificer order's vessel to provide the garrison of Spiracle Station the initial prototypes of his attempt to redevelop Saturnine Terminator armor.

For two years, the Thousand Sons and White Scars work on restoring Saturnine wargear, maintaining contact with the Salamanders on their progress, but they are cut off from the Imperium when Magnus accidentally broke the Webway in Holy Terra, and a warpstorm swallows Kolarne-Distal whole. Fortunately, the system remains untouched despite the surrounding systems being devastated.


Unable to communicate with the wider Imperium and discovering that any attempts to leave the system will prove fatal, the Thousand Sons and White Scars have nothing better to do but continue restoring Saturnine armor, and they succeed. The Ruinstorm then blows away the Maelstrom, connecting Spiracle Station to the rest of the galaxy again. Yay! However, their first contact is with a strike cruiser, Endless Path, and its White Scar crew going insane and accusing the Thousand Sons of treachery. Even though we harbor them and allow them to dock, they immediately draw their weapons and try to kill the confused Thousand Sons.

Okay, he did tell the Stormseer Nikudaar and the Numerologist Okhafor an account of the Horus Heresy, the burning of Propsero and the condemnation fo Magnus and the Thousand Sons before he decides to go all psychotic murder on us. Nikudaar and the White Scars in Spiracle Station remain on our side and end up killing the crazed captain. The rest of the White Scars crew from the Endless Path end up going berserk and try killing both Thousand Sons and their White Scars brethren on Spiracle Station alike.

36 White Scars and 21 Thousand Sons versus three times that number of White Scars legionaries. Guess who won? Well, the guys with Saturnine armor, of course. Needless to say, the White Scars-Thousand Sons allied Saturnine force annihilates the insane White Scars attempting to murder them, and the White Scars garrison pretty much takes the Endless Path and leaves the system in search of their Primarch, Jaghatai Khan. Meanwhile, the Thousand Sons board Paroxysm, which is a XVth Legion vessel, and go their separate ways, in search of surviving Thousand Sons.

Being bros, they split the Saturnine armor and psyarkana stored in the vaults of Spiracle Station among themselves, abandoning the outpost, and sharing the fruits of their labor. And that's how the Thousand Sons get our Saturnine armor. Yay?

Oh, by the way, the crazed captain and his crazy crew? Before arriving at Spiracle Station, they came from the Prospero system, right after civil strife in the Vth Legion instigated by none other than the Brotherhood of the Dawn Sky, which they belong to.

The War of Bitter Iron

Iron Hands versus Word Bearers, basically. For some reason, the Iron Hands outnumber the Word Bearers (huh?) as the former launches a vengeful crusade toward the latter's home world of Colchis. Anyway, this specific account is the Sundering of Milhand, a diminished Forge World who has lost much of its military prowess after its small Titan Legio - Legio Ablutum (Cleansing Flame) - became Blackshields, and they were pretty much raided by Word Bearers and the Legio Mordaxis.

Interestingly, the Iron Hands fleet also has a super "kingship" of their own to rival the Word Bearers' Abyssal-class ships - a shard of Medusa's shattered orbital ring granted locomotion named Memorius. It's slow, though...so pretty much the whole story takes place before it arrives in orbit of Milhand and ends the poor Forge World with its colossal firepower.

Despite its diminished stature, Milhand is still vital in the Word Bearers' efforts and their defense of Colchis system due to the armor, munitions, equipment and weaponry they manufacture and supply. By the time the Iron Hands arrive, the Word Bearers are pretty much scrambling to get as much munitions, armor, equipment and supplies as they can off-world, for the larger war-effort. Obviously, the Iron Hands intend to stop them, and perhaps requisition a good chunk of those war materiel for themselves.

Long story short, the Iron Hands deploy in force, their superior numbers overwhelming Word Bearers defenses and overrunning them. Cataphractii and Gorgon Terminators are dispatched into the forge complex and fight their way through automata, servitors and even the machinery of the forge-complex itself. While the surface battle go well for the Iron Hands, their Contemptor Dreadnoughts and a single Saturnine Dreadnought pretty much making mincemeat out of the poor Word Bearers left behind to defend a shrinking cordon - and despite this cool scene where they merge the void shields of their Stormbirds together to make a last stand - the Saturnine Dreadnought pretty much obliterates their protection with his graviton pulverizer and inversion beamer. Nice.


The Cataphractii and Gorgon Terminators, on the other hand, don't fare as well. They stumble upon the cursed platform where daemon-infused Saturnine plate is being manufactured and anointed, and a bunch of Phraetus Anointed Conclave teleport in and begin slaughtering them. Despite outnumbering them two against one, the Iron Hands Terminators are wiped out, in exchange for only a single fallen Phraetus Anointed.

Similarly, twelve Phraetus Anointed teleport into the Word Bearers' defense to save them from the Iron Hands Breachers, tanks and walkers, but they got absolutely butchered. The Iron Hands Saturnine Dreadnought destroyed four of them while the Contemptor Dreadnoughts crushed two. With half their number slain, the remaining Phraetus Anointed basically beat it out of there via daemonic teleportation or whatever. The rest of the Word Bearers attempt to flee, but most are cut down by the sheer firepower the Iron Hands bring to bear, including anti-air fire from Deredeo Dreadnoughts.

Memorius proceeds to wreck whatever Word Bearer ships that remain in orbit, and Milhand now falls into the hands of the Iron Hands. Yes, that is on purpose. Ahem, anyway, the Iron Hands claim bloody salvage from the fallen Phraetus and Word Bearers, and they end up creating their own distorted Saturnine armor, known as Helwrought. Huh, okay.



The Bloody Toll of the Saturnine Renewal

The Solemn March sees the Ultramarines Saturnine Terminator squad Alepho march to the aid of Highborn Wardens and Evocatii battalions in the Decalian District in the world of Armatura, braving all sorts of firepower from Fire Raptors or ambushes, only to find them all massacred. Sad, grimdark.

The Siege of Baal is about the Saturnine Terminators of the Colossi standing guard over Baal, the 3,000 strong garrison supplemented by many times their number of bonded Solar Auxilia Cohort troops, such as Saiphan Elevatii, Gilded Sentinels and the Fusiliers of Canopus. Oh, and alongside sheltered Shattered Legions. They protect Baal from Traitor attacks after the perceived tragedy of Signus, saving hundreds of Legionaries and thousands of Solar Auxilia. Chads, every one of them.

During the Crucible of Nuceria, the Indurate Terminators employ Saturnine plate in mass against the elite cadres of Invictus Suzerains as Guilliman engages Angron. After the Ulramarines withdraw, they are suddenly attacked by fellow World Eaters, keen to claim the Saturnine suits as their own.

When the Inwit Cluster is attacked by Traitors, the world of Terros IV resist Emperor's Children raiders, with Bilatt Svenor of the Inwit Empire's Void Salvage Guild organizing a stalwart resistance from the world's hardy hive gangers and rig-hands. Fortunately, just when supplies and morale are running low, Imperial Fists Saturnine Terminators teleport into Terros IV and kick the Emperor's Children off the planet in style, allowing them to resume supply of promethium to the Loyalists.

As previously mentioned, Perturabo is initially reluctant to fabricate Saturnine armor because he thinks it's a waste for his line warriors, but he changes his bitter mind when he witnesses the endurance of Saturnine Terminators and Dreadnought chassis in Isstvan V. Mass manufacturing them, he deploys them during the Siege of Inwit, now having access to company-strength formations of Saturnine Terminators supported by many Dreadnoughts. These are known as Tekathikos, the Mountain Breakers.

This leads to the Imperial Fists in the Inwit Cluster specially designing hunter-killers with specialist weaponry to prioritize the destruction of Tekathikos before all others.

Saturday, October 4, 2025

Sekhmet Terminators

I assembled a small squad of Sekhmet Terminators for my Thousand Sons!


You will notice that they are all armed with volkite chargers. Yup! Kitbashed them with the remaining resin volkite chargers I had, snared some bits from Tartaros Terminators for the single plastic volkite charger and plasma blaster, and voila! Sekhmet Terminators armed with volkite chargers and a plasma blaster! Pleased with how they turned out.

It's a fun little project, but I don't intend to add more. Just wanted a squad to be thematic with my Thousand Sons Praetor in Cataphractii Terminator armor (Ignatius). So they look really cool. Will still keep my 10-men Cataphractii Terminator squad with volkite, and eventually add the Saturnine Terminators. They look really thematic and flavorful now. Ignatius in his customized Thousand Sons Cataphractii Terminator armor standing next to these Sekhmet Terminators, the two Osiron Contemptor Dreadnoughts, and then the soon-to-come Saturnine Terminators and Saturnine Dreadnought. Hopefully, I'll have time to assemble 2 plasma tactical support squads with MKII armor and achaean heads. That will be cool! They'll be backed by a Numerologist Cabal and Castellax-Achea battle automata.

I removed the armor because I'll use my Solar Auxilia for armor support instead. Since I have a bunch of Leman Russ tanks and everything. This will be fun!

Tuesday, September 30, 2025

Indcutii for Horus Heresy 3.0

We finally have rules for Inductii in Horus Heresy 3.0! As always, refer to Warhammer Community for more details. The PDF is here.

Honestly, I wanted to write about this earlier, but I've been working until 2-4am every night for the last week. Even weekends. Burned my weekends working until 4am, especially Sunday. So I'm exhausted. Anyway, even whining, let's get to the Inductii.


From what I can see, the rules and loadouts haven't changed much. They're still flavorful, and make for good troops, except that they have Line 1 as opposed to Tactical Squads' Line 2. They also don't get Fury or Heart of the Legion, with a couple of exceptions. I think.

Dark Angels still have their volkite chargers, so my Inductii squad from 2nd edition is still valid. Hell, yeah! Thank you, Games Workshop or rules writers! So glad I can field my Dark Angels Inductii once more! But yeah, that's about it, they only get volkite chargers in a troops slot. Works for me, and I'm more than happy to field a volkite/plasma only army. Heh.

Thousand Sons have breaching 6+ for their weapons if they pass their Willpower test for a psychic power, but I'm pleased to see they have gained permission to take 1 volkite caliver for every 5 guys. Hmm, I'm tempted to build Thousand Sons Inductii now...we'll see, I guess. Probably not, because I currently lack the time and money, but maybe later down the road. Sigh. I will assemble a 2nd Dark Angels Inductii squad with the MKIIs from the Saturnine box I'll eventually get, though. Will be fun!

Friday, September 12, 2025

Mechanicum and Dark Mechanicum lists after Liber Strategia

During the weekend, I had constructed Legions Imperialis lists for my Knight Household, Solar Auxilia and Collegia Titan armies. I wanted to see how much has changed for my Dark Mechanicum, who are supposed to be the antagonists for this weird story I had in my head about my Knight Household and their Cybernetica retainer cohorts, plus Collegia Titan allies.

Unfortunately, I've been returning home late every night. I literally reached home past midnight yesterday, and I couldn't write more than a two paragraphs before I gave up and went to bed. So I ended up continuing today instead. Ugh. Anyway, I'll begin with the Mechanicum list, then Dark Mechanicum. As usual.

Before Liber Strategia

Legio Cybernetica Cohort (Loyalist)
Archmagos Prime on Abeyant (45)
2 (x3) Thallax (25)
2 (x3) Thallax (25)
4 (x3) Castellax battle-automata (140)
2 Tech-priests Auxilia (30)
2 (x3) Vorax battle-automata (80)
2 Vultarax Stratos-automata (70)
2 Triaros Armored Conveyors (30)
Points: 445


Dark Taghma Sub-covenant
Archmagos Prime on Abeyant (45)
4 (x5) Adsecularis Tech-thrall Covenant (30)
6 (x5) Adescularis Tech-thrall Covenant (42)
4 (x3) Thallax (50)
2 (x2) Myrmidon Destructor Host (30)
2 (x2) Myrmidon Destructor Host (30)
2 (x2) Myrmidon Secutor Host (30)
4 (x3) Ursarax Cohort (40)
2 Triaros Armored Conveyors (30)
Points: 327

Terror Protocol Cohort
1 Scintillax Cyclops Noospheric Stalker Network (75)
4 (x3) Harpax Swarmer Scout Hosts (30)
4 (x3) Harpax Swarmer Scout Hosts (30)
1 Errax Butcher Assault Stalker Cohort (45)
1 Errax Butcher Assault Stalker Cohort (45)
Points: 225

Purge Protocol Cohort
2 Serperos Overlord Heavy Stalker Maniple (175)
1 Tenebrax Archer Battle Stalker Cohort (35)
1 Tenebrax Archer Battle Stalker Cohort (35)
1 Scintillax Cyclops Noospheric Stalker Network (75)
2 Serperos Overlord Heavy Stalker Maniple (175)
Points: 495

Total (Dark Mechanicum only because Legio Cybernetica is Loyalist): 1,047

Now, what happens after Liber Strategia? Just how much has changed for both the Mechanicum and Dark Mechanicum? Or perhaps the reduction in Titan points makes the most difference for how the Dark Mechanicum goes to war?

After Liber Strategia

Legio Cybernetica Cohort (Loyalist)
Archmagos Prime on Abeyant (45)
2 (x3) Thallax (25)
2 (x3) Thallax (25)
4 (x3) Castellax battle-automata (135)
2 Tech-priests Auxilia (30)
2 (x3) Vorax battle-automata (75)
2 Vultarax Stratos-automata (65)
2 Triaros Armored Conveyors (44)
Points: 444

Uh, thanks to the Triaros Armored Conveyors going up by 7 points each (14 for 2), I only save 1 point. I was going to originally make this an allied detachment to my Purgigatus Heavy Maniple and Collegia Titanica Support Cohort, but the Warmaster has gone up by 100 points, so that's moot. Oh, well. Solution is simple - because I'm over by 75 points, all I need to do is simply remove the Vorax, and there you go. But I might consider the alternative.


Legio Cybernetica Cohort (Loyalist)
Archmagos Prime on Abeyant (45)
4 (x3) Thallax (45)
4 (x3) Thallax (45)
4 (x3) Castellax battle-automata (135)
2 Tech-priests Auxilia (30)
2 (x3) Vorax battle-automata (75)
2 Vultarax Stratos-automata (65)
4 Triaros Armored Conveyors (88)
Points: 528

Yeah, that means my guys have gone over by 159 points now. I suppose I'll have to remove a single Thanatar and the Vultarax to get under 3,000 points. Yikes. That hurts, but you can't have everything in life, I suppose. Especially since I'm taking 3 heavy Titans in this list already. Fair enough.

For Dark Mechanicum, on the other hand, the calculations have gotten more complex. I'll take out the Thallax and Triaros since they have gone over to my Loyalists, though I'd like to do a comparison first to see how points have changed before I adjust my list.

Dark Taghma Sub-covenant
Archmagos Prime on Abeyant (45)
5 (x5) Adsecularis Tech-thrall Covenant (40)
5 (x5) Adsecularis Tech-thrall Covenant (40)
4 (x3) Thallax (45)
2 (x2) Myrmidon Destructor Host (30)
2 (x2) Myrmidon Destructor Host (30)
2 (x2) Myrmidon Secutor Host (30)
4 (x3) Ursarax Cohort (55)
2 Triaros Armored Conveyors (44)
Points: 359

Yeah, the total cost went up by 32 points, rather than go down. Mostly because of the Triaros Armored Conveyor going up in points, but apparently both the Adsecularis Tech-thrall Covenant and Ursarax cohort rose in costs too! Ouch. The good news is that the Adescularis Tech-thralls are split into 5 bases rather than weirdly 4 or 6, and you can take up to 10. Cool, but I need to fulfil 2 compulsory cores anyway. Of course, I plan to adjust the list by removing the Thallax and Triaros, so now they cost this much instead. Also, there is no change to the points costs for the Dark Mechanicum stalker constructs, so no discount there. Oh, well.

Dark Taghma Sub-covenant
Archmagos Prime on Abeyant (45)
5 (x5) Adsecularis Tech-thrall Covenant (40)
5 (x5) Adsecularis Tech-thrall Covenant (40)
2 (x2) Myrmidon Destructor Host (30)
2 (x2) Myrmidon Destructor Host (30)
2 (x2) Myrmidon Secutor Host (30)
4 (x3) Ursarax Cohort (55)
Points: 270

Terror Protocol Cohort
1 Scintillax Cyclops Noospheric Stalker Network (75)
4 (x3) Harpax Swarmer Scout Hosts (30)
4 (x3) Harpax Swarmer Scout Hosts (30)
1 Errax Butcher Assault Stalker Cohort (45)
1 Errax Butcher Assault Stalker Cohort (45)
Points: 225

Purge Protocol Cohort
2 Serperos Overlord Heavy Stalker Maniple (175)
1 Tenebrax Archer Battle Stalker Cohort (35)
1 Tenebrax Archer Battle Stalker Cohort (35)
1 Scintillax Cyclops Noospheric Stalker Network (75)
2 Serperos Overlord Heavy Stalker Maniple (175)
Points: 495

Total: 990


So what do I do for the rest of the 2,010 points?

Titans. They've gone down in points. Each of the formations allow me to take Titans, and they count as primary, not allied. Yay! So the Terror Protocol Cohort allows me to bring 2 Warhounds in a single hunting pack for 600 points, and I'll grab a 350-point Dire Wolf and a 850-point Warmaster Iconoclast Titan for 1,800 points to bring the total up to 2,790 points. That leaves me with 210 points. I think I'll get a second box of Dark Mechanicum Stalker Constructs, doubling the Errax Butcher Assault Stalker Cohort (40 for the second), Tenebrax Archer Battle Stalker Cohort (still 35, unfortunately) and Harpax Swarmer Scout Hosts (25 for 4 additional). Alternatively, I can get a 2 squadrons of 3 Krios battle tanks (one fitted with irad scourers) for 200 points total (100 each), but I'll decide when the time comes.

Only thing left to do now is to get those Titans and second box of Dark Mechanicum Stalkers (or a box of Krios tanks, depending on what I feel like assembling), and my Dark Mechanicum will be complete. Once that's done, I'll have to paint them one day and create a diorama of my Knight Household clashing against the Dark Mechanicum. Or my Loyalist Titans against the Dark Mechanicum for a literal clash of Titans. That will be fun!

Sunday, September 7, 2025

Liber Strategia

I finally got my hands on the new Liber Strategia! Yay! Now it's time to pore through the changes and see what affected me the most. I don't have any Legiones Astartes stuff for Legions Imperialis, so I won't talk about them, but I'll mostly see how my Solar Auxilia, Mechanicum, Knights and Titans have been affected. Knights, especially! Mechanicum, I'll do in another article because they haven't seen many points changes, so I won't cover them in this article.  Specifically, Dark Mechanicum - there's not many changes for my Cybernetica Cohorts, so I'll just run through what minor changes they have here, and focus on Dark Mechanicum in a future post.


Before Liber Stategia

Let's start off with Solar Auxilia, though. We'll calculate the original points from before the Liber Strategia. I have a Solar Auxilia Mechanized Infantry sub-cohort with a Solar Auxilia Armored Company, and Titan Hunter Company. My Legate Commander Detachment (16 points), 2 Auxilia Lasrifle Tercios (one has a couple of flamer sections in them) would cost me 72 points, a full Auxilia Veletaris Storm Section about 60 points, and a single Auxilia Ogryn Charonite section for 50 points. They all ride in 10 Dracosan Armored Transports (7 with demolisher cannons, 3 with lascannons), (37x3 + 42x7 = 111+294 = 405). We have 2 squadrons of 4 Aethon Armored Sentinels for 60x2 = 120 points and 4 Lightning Fighters in a squadron for 305 points.

The Armored Company has 2 Valdor tanks in a squadron for 140 points, 2 squadrons of 4 Leman Russ Executioner tanks for 175 points each (350 for both) and 2 Stormblades for 240 points (1 being the Tank Commander), and 2 Baneblades for 190 points.  The Titan Hunter company has 4 Shadowswords (2 in a squadron, plus tank commander) for 560 points.

Solar Auxilia Mechanized Infantry sub-cohort: 1,028
Solar Auxilia Armored Company: 920
Solar Auxilia Titan Hunter Company: 560
Total: 2,508 points

The remaining 492 points are for allied Knights and the like. Honestly, to adjust this list, I'll probably take out the Charonite Ogryns and their transports, which would free up 134 points, so a total of 626 points for Knights (3 Knight Lancers for 605 points). I don't know what to do with the remaining 21 points, but whatever.

Anyway, speaking of Knights, I did have a few lists from before Liber Strategia.


Barony Guard Lance
3 Questoris Knights Errant with missile pods (535)
3 Questoris Knights Paladin with missile pods (535)
3 Cerastus Knights Lancer (605)
3 Cerastus Knights Castigator (605)
Points: 2,280

Bonded Household Lance
2 Questoris Knights Styrix (390)
2 Questoris Knights Styrix (390)
2 Questoris Knights Magaera (390)
2 Cerastus Knights Atrapos (455)
1 Acastus Knight Asterius (270)
Points: 1,895

Knight Household Aegis Cohort
2 Acastus Knights Porphyrion (500)
1 Cerastus Knight Castigator (215)
4 (x3) Castellax battle-automata (140)
2 Domitar battle-automata (65)
2 Arlatax battle-automata (75)
4 Thanatar siege-automata (210)
4 Thanatar siege-automata with Sollex heavy-las (230)
Points: 1,435


Knight Household Retainer Cohort
1 Cerastus Knight Lancer (215)
1 Vultarax stratos-automata (35)
1 Vultarax stratos-automata (35)
2 (x3) Vorax battle-automata (80)
Points: 365

Purigatus Heavy Maniple
Warmaster Heavy Battle Titan (750)
Warlord Battle Titan (600)
Points: 1,350

Collegia Titanica Support Cohort
Warlord Battle Titan (600)
2 Arlatax battle-automata (75)
2 Domitar battle-automata (65)
4 Thanatar siege-automata (210)
4 Thanatar siege-automata with Sollex heavy las (230)
Points: 1,180

I'll include the Cybernetica points for Mechanicum, briefly. Fortunately (or unfortunately), there aren't any major changes to Mechanicum Cybernetica units, except for 5 points discounts for additional 2nd detachments for the Castellax, Vorax, Vultarax and Thanatar (but additional 3rd and 4th detachments cost the same). Oh, well. Or I'll write about Dark Mechanicum in a separate article, but I feel like Solar Auxilia, Knights and Titans are more than enough ground to cover for this one. Anyway, let's see how much have changed after the discounts in Liber Strategia!

After Liber Strategia

Again, let's start with the changes to Solar Auxilia. My Legate Commander detachment, lasrifle tercio, and Veletaris Storm sections have not changed at all, but Ogryns went up by 20 points! Ouch! However, they are now 2 wounds each! What the hell?! Aethon Heavy Sentinels cost the same, but we have an extra attack for our light missile launcher (still hits on 5+, though, but now twice, while the anti-tank didn't change). Oh, Leman Russ Vanquisher squadron stayed the same, but Leman Russ strike squadron (the battle tank) has gone down by 15 points to 160 for 4 as opposed to 175, plus extra tanks cost 150 points for 4. Nice! Speaking of which, the same applies to my Leman Russ Executioner squadron, which is now 160 points for 4 instead of 175, yay! And my Valdor now has a 2+ save and a drop in points from 70 to 60, and 55 for a 2nd instead of 70 again!


Baneblades cost the same - 100 points, 90 for the second, but they now have 3 wounds each! That's actually incredible! Stormblades went down by 10 points (110 now, 100 for second), and they get 3 wounds too! Did I mention the plasma blastgun went up to 3 shots from 2? That's insane. You know what's even crazier? Shadowswords. My Titan Hunter Company. They went down from 140 to 120, and 110 for a second tank, plus they also get the 3 wounds treatment. No change to the volcano cannon, but I'll take it, for sure. Dracosans did go up 5 points per model, but they are 2 wounds each now. Damn! Still 5 points for the demolisher cannon upgrade. Lightning fighters remain the same.

So, effectively, my tanks got tougher, cheaper, or both (Dracosans got tougher but more expensive). Let's see how many points they are now.

Solar Auxilia Mechanized Infantry sub-cohort: 1,098
Solar Auxilia Armored Company: 845
Solar Auxilia Titan Hunter Company: 480
Total: 2,423 points

My Solar Auxilia is now 85 points cheaper, with more durable tanks and more wounds spread across them! I now have 577 points for Knights, which means I can bring more of them! As usual, I can remove the Ogryns and their Dracosan armored transports to free up 164 points for a total of 741 points. I can bring 3 Cerastus Knights and 2 Questoris Knights!


Questoris Knights have gone down by 50 points (to 130), with subsequent Knights being 60 or 100 less for 2 (120 and 240). They also get 2+ saves and 3+ ion shields now! Rocket pods still cost 5 points, no change there. Mechanicum Questoris Knights now only cost 10 points more (though extra Knights are about 130 each). Cerastus Knights are now 160 points - a 55-point discount - with extra Knights costing 150 each, as well as the 2+ saves and 3+ ion shields (Knight Lancers get 2+ ion shields!). The Cerastus Knight Atrapos is still a 20-point upgrade, but it means he keeps the 55 point discount. Extra Knights are 170 points each for the banner. Nice. Acastus Knight Porphyrion is 230 points each, 20 points cheaper, and 220 for the second. The Asterius upgrade is an additional 10 points, which makes him 30 points cheaper than previously! Awesome!

Armiger Banners have gone down from 180 to 120 for the normal variants, and 135 from 200 for the Moirax, plus they get Tactical Strength of 3 instead of 1 in Knight Households Formations. Their datasheets see no changes whatsoever, with the remarkable exception of the Helverin, who now has 3 shots for his autocannon, hitting on 4+ instead of 2 shots and 5+ previously. Too bad I have no Armigers, and I won't get them until they're released in plastic.

Barony Guard Lance
3 Questoris Knights Errant with missile pods (385)
3 Questoris Knights Paladin with missile pods (385)
3 Cerastus Knights Lancer (460)
3 Cerastus Knights Castigator (460)
Points: 1,695


Bonded Household Lance
2 Questoris Knights Styrix (270)
2 Questoris Knights Styrix (270)
2 Questoris Knights Magaera (270)
2 Cerastus Knights Atrapos (350)
1 Acastus Knight Asterius (240)
Points: 1,400

Knight Household Aegis Cohort
2 Acastus Knights Porphyrion (450)
1 Cerastus Knight Castigator (160)
4 (x3) Castellax battle-automata (135)
2 Domitar battle-automata (65)
2 Arlatax battle-automata (75)
4 Thanatar siege-automata (210)
4 Thanatar siege-automata with Sollex heavy-las (230)
Points: 1,325

Knight Household Retainer Cohort
1 Cerastus Knight Lancer (160)
1 Vultarax stratos-automata (35)
1 Vultarax stratos-automata (35)
2 (x3) Vorax battle-automata (75)
Points: 305

As you can see, my lances went down by 585, 495, 110 and 60 points respectively. I can actually take a Barony Guard Lance and a Knight Household Aegis Cohort together now, no problem! Just need to get rid of 4 rocket pods. Alternatively, I can remove 2 Thanatar and 1 Thanatar with the Sollex heavy-las, plus 3 rocket pods (because I want to be thematic and run them in banners), and add a second Cerastus Knight to the Aegis Cohort. Similarly, I can run a Bonded Household Lance with a Knight Household Aegis Cohort, remove a single Arlatax, and add 2 more Cerastus Knights. Pretty much 3 Cerastus Knight Lancers or Castigators in the Aegis Cohort. That is a lot of Knights, but with automata support! Nice.

I can even combine my Barony Guard Lance with Knight Household Retainer Cohort, add a second Cerastus Knight (the Castigator) to the Knight Lancer, and then fill the remaining 850 points with my Warmaster Titan! Woohoo!


Now, the Titans. The Warlord Titan, unfortunately, still costs 600 points, but he has 7 wounds now instead of 6, and his void shields increased from 6 to 8. Time will tell if he's still worth taking. The Warlord-Sinister Titan receives the same treatment, still costing 675 points, but also has 7 wounds and 8 void shields now. The Warmaster has seen an increase to a whooping 850 points from 750, with 8 wounds now instead of 7. Still retains 12 void shields Really? Really?! You're increasing his cost by 100 points for a measly wound? Needless to say, the same applies to his Iconoclast counterpart. Ugh.

For the Titans I don't have (but I might in the future, for Dark Mechanicum), Warhound Titans have dropped from 330 to 300, and each subsequent Warhound costs an additional 300, as opposed to 330 and 640 for 2 more in the original. Like the others, they have an extra wound - 5 instead of 4. The Dire Wolf has seen points dropped to 350 from 385, and similarly, he has gained a 5th wound just like his less heavily armed brethren. Reavers are cheaper by 15 points - now 400 - and also have an extra wound (6 now). Like the Warlord, the Warbringer Nemesis Titan has unfortunately remained at 525 points with no discounts, but he does have an extra wound now (6), like the Reaver. All of them have the same number of void shields (2 for the Warhounds and Dire Wolf, 4 for the Reaver and 6 for Warbringer Nemesis, so no change there).

Purigatus Heavy Maniple
Warmaster Heavy Battle Titan (850)
Warlord Battle Titan (600)
Points: 1,450

Collegia Titanica Support Cohort
Warlord Battle Titan (600)
2 Arlatax battle-automata (75)
2 Domitar battle-automata (65)
4 Thanatar siege-automata (210)
4 Thanatar siege-automata with Sollex heavy las (230)
Points: 1,180

Uh...that leaves 370 points for a tiny allied detachment. Fortunately, Knights are cheaper now, so 3 Questoris Knights without rocket pods? Or even 2 Cerastus Knight Atrapos if I want to be mean. Hey, that actually works! Perfect!

Saturday, September 6, 2025

Veletaris command section

I assembled a Veletaris command section! Do you guys remember the Heresy 1.0 first edition rules of old when the Lord Marshal could take a household retinue? The one where you can take a Veletaris Storm Section an Elites choice and they get Preferred Enemy (Infantry). They're supposed to be the Marshal's bodyguards, get WS4 (which we already do get in 3.0), and people would arm them with storm axes. For the Marshal and his household retinue to charge into glorious combat and hack even the vaunted Legionaries of the Legiones Astartes to pieces. Because we mortals rock.

So that's what I did. Gave almost everyone, aside from the Captain and the vox operator, a storm axe. Whee!!!!

I even kitbashed a Veletaris with a command vox. He has a volkite charger by his side. I mean, it makes no sense for the vox operator to be armed with a storm axe...his job isn't to charge into melee, but to stay back and keep the vox channels open for communication.

"Bro, where's your storm axe? Why aren't you charging?"

"Mate, can't you see the heavy vox-pack on my back? You want me to run straight at the enemy while carrying all this equipment? Nah, go on ahead. I'll just shoot from afar with my trusty volkite charger."

"...right. Okay, everyone else! CHARGE!"

Not sure if you can see it, but the Captain (or Veletaris First Prime) has a volkite serpenta to pair with his power sword. As befitting his status as an officer, y'know? And also to mark him as an officer when contrasted against the Veletarii sergeants that lead the Veletaris storm sections. I also gave another guy an Auxilia vexila, to make it more command section-ish. He gets a storm axe because that's how he inspires the other Veletarii.

At least I can unlock my Veletaris Tercio now! YAY!

Friday, September 5, 2025

Dark Angels Contemptor Dreadnought

I finally assembled my Dark Angels Contemptor Dreadnought! I bought the plastic version to combine it with the resin Dark Angels torso.


I also assembled all the weapons, just in case I need them for a future Contemptor Dreadnought. You'll never know...anyway, my Osiron-Contemptor Dreadnoughts have an extra volkite culverin now! Maybe I might get one for Imperial Fists in the future, but I don't know. Depends on my budget, but for now my Dark Angels are on their way to becoming a more fully fledged out force.

I glued the plasma cannon because I want this guy to be plasma. Dark Angels = plasma. And I like plasma. Doesn't matter if they got nerfed or whatever. He'll go well with my Interemptors and other guys. Hopefully, I'll get more stuff for my Dark Angels - I intend to kitbash Mortalis Destroyers! Eventually...we'll see!